Words Builders Use To Say No

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Words builders use to say no, translated

Builders rarely say no. They say "that is not standard", "we would have to look at that", "it is a variation", or "we do not usually do that". Each one is a real sentence with a real meaning and, most of the time, a way through. Here is what they mean and what to say back.

What the pro looks at first

The pro listens for whether the answer is about physics, money or process. "The beam will not span that" is physics. "That is a variation" is money. "We do not do that at this stage" is process. Only one of them is a real no.

"That is not standard"

This is the most common one and the least final. Volume builders price a fixed range of products and details so the estimating is fast and the trades know what to expect. Anything outside the range is possible, it just needs to be priced and drawn. "Not standard" means not on the list, not impossible. The question to ask is what the upgrade path is, and whether it has been done before on this plan.

They say
“That is not standard”
It means
It is not in the pre-priced range.
Say back
What does the upgrade path look like, and have you done it on this plan before?
They say
“We do not offer that”
It means
No supplier set up for it, or the sales team cannot price it.
Say back
Can it be a client-supplied item, or priced through your estimator rather than sales?
They say
“That is a custom builder thing”
It means
It costs us time we have not priced into this house.
Say back
Is the issue the product, the drawing, or the trade?

"That is a variation"

A variation is any change to the contract after it is signed. It is not a refusal, it is a notice that the change will be priced, written up and signed by both of you before it happens. The word only becomes a problem when it is used for something you thought was included. If you hear it before contract, ask for the change to be drawn into the plans and priced into the contract so it never becomes a variation at all.

They say
“That will be a variation”
It means
You will pay for this change, plus our margin and admin.
Say back
Can we put it in the contract drawings now so it is not a variation later?
They say
“We can look at that after contract”
It means
We want the contract signed first.
Say back
I would rather see it priced before I sign.
They say
“That is a post-contract selection”
It means
You pick it later, at our selection centre, from our range.
Say back
What is the allowance and what does it buy?

"It is too late for that" and "it is too early for that"

Both are about sequence. Too late usually means the frame is up, the plaster is on or the order has been placed with a supplier. It is often genuinely too late, and the cost of undoing is real. Too early usually means the question belongs at a later meeting: colour selections, electrical walk, pre-plaster. It is a fair answer if you get a date for when it is the right time. It is a brush-off if nobody writes it down.

They say
“It is too late to change that”
It means
Something has been ordered or built.
Say back
What exactly has been ordered, and what would it cost to change now versus never?
They say
“We deal with that at selections”
It means
Not now, later, from our range.
Say back
Put it on the list for the selections appointment, in writing, please.
They say
“We will sort that on site”
It means
We will decide when we get there.
Say back
Can we agree it now and note it on the drawings?

"The engineer will not allow it"

Sometimes true, often untested. Engineers do not forbid things, they size them. A bigger opening needs a bigger lintel or a steel beam. A wall removed needs the load carried another way. Those have a cost and sometimes a bulkhead, and the builder may not want the conversation. Ask whether the engineer has actually been asked. If they have, ask for the answer in writing. If they have not, ask what it would take to ask.

They say
“The engineer will not allow it”
It means
It changes the structure and we may not have asked.
Say back
Has the engineer been asked, and can I see the response?
They say
“That wall is load bearing”
It means
Possibly true. It can still usually be replaced with a beam.
Say back
What would the beam and the bulkhead look like?
They say
“Council will not approve that”
It means
It might need a planning consent we do not want to lodge.
Say back
Is it a rule, or is it an application you would rather not make?

"We do not recommend that"

Listen to this one. It is often the builder's experience talking: the product fails, the detail leaks, the supplier is slow. Ask why. If the answer is specific, a product name and a failure they have seen, take it seriously. If the answer is vague, it usually means the trade does not like doing it or the margin is thin. You can still insist, and the builder may ask you to sign that you have been advised against it. That is fair.

They say
“We do not recommend that”
It means
Either we have seen it fail, or our trade does not like it.
Say back
What have you seen go wrong with it specifically?
They say
“You will not get a warranty on that”
It means
If it fails we will say we told you so.
Say back
Which part is excluded, and can the manufacturer warrant it directly?
They say
“Nobody does it that way”
It means
Our trades do not.
Say back
Is there a trade who does, and can they be brought in?

"That is a question for..."

Sales sends you to the estimator, the estimator to the drafter, the drafter to the supervisor, the supervisor to head office. Some of this is legitimate: the person in front of you genuinely cannot answer. Some of it is a loop designed to tire you out. The fix is to get names, and to put the question in an email to the person who can answer with a date you need it by.

They say
“That is a question for the drafter”
It means
I do not know and do not want to guess.
Say back
Can you email them now and copy me in?
They say
“The supervisor will go through that with you”
It means
After contract, on site.
Say back
Before I sign, who owns this question?
They say
“I will have to check”
It means
Fair enough, but it needs a date.
Say back
When will you know, and can you send it in writing?

The real noes

Some things are actually no, and a good builder will tell you clearly. A ceiling height the trusses cannot give you without redesign. A room that would breach a setback. A window that cannot go on a boundary wall. A product the manufacturer will not warrant in a wet area. A change once the slab is poured. When you hear a no with a reason you can check, that is a builder being honest, and it is worth more than a yes that turns into a variation.

Questions people ask

What does "not standard" mean when a builder says it?+

It means the item or detail is not in the builder's pre-priced range. It is usually possible as an upgrade or a client-supplied item; it just has to be priced and drawn.

What is a variation in a building contract?+

Any change to the agreed contract, priced and signed by both parties before the work is done. The change attracts the builder's margin and often an admin fee. Changes made before contract, and drawn into the plans, are not variations.

Can I insist on something my builder does not recommend?+

Usually, yes. Ask what specifically they have seen go wrong. If you go ahead anyway, expect to sign an acknowledgement and check whether the warranty on that item is affected.

When is it really too late to change something in a build?+

Once the item has been ordered from a supplier or the stage it belongs to has been built. Frame changes after plaster, slab changes after the pour, and window changes after the order are the common genuine ones.

What should I do when a builder keeps passing my question on?+

Get the name of the person who can answer, put the question in an email to them with the salesperson copied in, and ask for a date. Written questions get written answers.

Sizes quoted are typical for Australian residential work and are given to help you read drawings and ask better questions. They are not a specification. Your engineer, designer, builder and the National Construction Code decide what applies to your house.

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